TheDix

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 2:51:37 PM
Take out the computers and auction them off TOYOTA.
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OHMS

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:32:26 AM
same answer to every topic today; eh? SAFE TOYOTA/LEXUS should be towed to an impound yard until this is resolved.
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Amplion

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:16:31 AM
UNSAFE TOYOTA/LEXUS should be towed to an impound yard until this is resolved.
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dopster

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:15:40 AM
Gee, I think it's about safety.
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zimowski

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:13:24 AM
Interesting that Transport Canada needs to depend on Toyota for "reliable" information.
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Don20

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:11:44 AM
Transport Canada has received 17 complaints about Toyota cars involving a number of issues over the past three years.
They fail to say 17 out of how many cars. 17 is a low figure if Toyota has 500 thousand cars on the road. Every car manufacturing company has recalls.. I think this thing with Toyota has been blow completely out of proportion by the Media. I have never owned any vehicle other than U.S. manufactured..
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POPSAZ

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Arizona
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:07:11 AM
A hude o locus (Toyota) has descnded on Canada. NOT.
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bluebird1

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:04:06 AM
PS: Easy for Toyota to say "there has as yet been no confirmed cases...in Canada", since they fail to notify authorities of cases & refuse to use/deny access to tools/info. in order to investigate causes of incidents. I have read of at least 3-5 incidences that fit this, are unexplained & Toyota has not or refused to help investigate. So this quote is legally truthful but morally might come back to haunt Toyota.
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BeaverBilly

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Alberta
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:04:01 AM
They should be grilled. Deep fried would be better.
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206awd250

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:02:25 AM
They have a huge special on some of the most popular Toyota's now. Sales much be bad.
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remay

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:01:49 AM
anything to deflect the responsiblitity away from the REAL culprit...
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CptnCanada

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Saskatoon
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:01:41 AM
The real question is " which is cheaper for Toyota fixing the cars or paying off the politicians?"
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t_flor

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:00:48 AM
You only get away with misconduct for only so long. In the end you will get your "just" reward.
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cnet1

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Arizona
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:00:01 AM
the toyota thing really is being blown out of proportion by the media.
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thirstyauto

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:59:51 AM
THE PERFECT CAR DOES NOT EXIST, NOR WILL IT EVER EXIST!
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ModelWarships

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:59:35 AM
just fix the problem for crying out load.
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DarthDadJr

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:59:10 AM
It is marginally satisfying that the NHTSA was not the only government watchdog a sleep at the switch!
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bluebird1

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:58:32 AM
All the politicians want is to distance themselves from their safety depts, the safety dept wants to point fingers elsewhere & Toyota just wishes to cover the whole thing up like they tried to do...but can't now. It's funny how Toyota managed to close group investigations & then hire people from the NHTSA, or above not report complaints they had (but its up to owners to also report it-if still alive, if co. not handling it). As to mysub, its Toyota's job to fix it & everybody else's to complain. The safety org.s might have had a handle on the issue sooner if Toyota had not refused to be open about incidents...ie. secrecy around EDR data read-out that was next to impossible to get from them until now.
What's sad from above, of the 17 complaints...one is of a young man killed under dubious circumstances almost 3 yrs ago & family/lawyers had to fight till now before Toyota would unload the 'black box' info. This is to happen soon because of all the recalls & attention & I hope it puts some blame on them after treating the case with such distain. Just for those not in the know, just about all other mfgrs have open software so that law enforcement etc. can easily get data(at sight in many cases) to help with investigation.
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EXTREMESNOW

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Medford
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:57:17 AM
It has been interesting but will be nice when Toyota gets to the bottom of this and it doesn't make the headlines every day!
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QueenMother

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:55:51 AM
I think it's higher than 17 complaints in three years.
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grandmacbc

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Buffalo
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:55:15 AM
It will be interesting when Toyota gets to the bottom of this mess.
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BillHeatherL

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Alberta
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:54:41 AM
good one ampinoy 13
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NashGas

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Nashville
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:54:29 AM
Here come the Sharks.
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thriftymeCA

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:53:02 AM
If you work for Toyota, it's time to polish up the resume.
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tazdriver

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Huntsville
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:51:50 AM
Fascist spin misters at work again
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ByGuy

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:51:28 AM
Holier than thou politicians are at it again.
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ampinoy13

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:50:04 AM
17 complaints in THREE YEARS. Come on you politicians. I'd like to see how of you could go three years with only 17 complaints.
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Jorgie

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:49:59 AM
Yep, it's all Toyota's fault. Did anyone notice that the idiot in California ignored the instruction to put his car in neutral?
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gasman50

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Portland
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:48:07 AM
Toyota has a very tough road ahead
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abcdMA

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Worcester
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:47:21 AM
Toyota's trouble continues
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Jizme

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Lincoln
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:46:46 AM
So they are still trying to figure out who to point the finger at instead of fixing the problem.
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Diesel_Ram

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:45:33 AM
It gets worse before it get s better.
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BlueVanGroup

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Colorado
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:44:34 AM
The folks in Washington (and Ottawa) seem to be thrashing this issue to distract the public from what they're doing behind closed doors.
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ifallsguy

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:41:34 AM
And Toyota thought they won the war after WWII
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mysub

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Las Vegas
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:37:58 AM
I hope someone is working on fixing the problem while all this complaining is going on.
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mvosevich

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:37:44 AM
There's nothing new about this issue.
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k2kipp

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:37:28 AM
Toyota... sick of hearing about them.
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klatu2u

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:35:35 AM
Does Toyota have enought lawyers to fight this continual barrage?
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saveongasNC

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:35:13 AM
I sick of Toyota!
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DustyHorse

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:34:31 AM
Great, more politicians want to get some media attention.
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civicdutie

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Rochester
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:33:38 AM
Looks like all countries that drive Toyotas are jumping in for a chance to yell at Toyota Execs.
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CharlieC08

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Colorado
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:32:49 AM
Tokyo Joe is alive and well.
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AC-302

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:32:43 AM
I don't think there's any conspiracy, it's just another inefficient government bureaucracy castigating another one.
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milespergallon

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:32:29 AM
Just profits getting in the way of quality
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nozzle46

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Little Rock
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:30:19 AM
There's something big going on here. Someone I know has a saying, "Everything electronic tends to the demonic."
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jd2009

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Honolulu
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:28:37 AM
This is not a good year for Toyota ... just fix the problems, so we can talk about other things
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NewfieGasMan

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Newfoundland
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:28:18 AM
17 complants is way to high.
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ThreeOceans

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:27:59 AM
interesting approach
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Yonkers111

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Scranton
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:24:17 AM
"Alot of people have been killed already". And how many is alot?
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zippoking

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:22:33 AM
OriginalBudman, look up the Ford Pinto, and I think you'll rescind your statement. They likely know all about it, but its alway a calculation of if the lawsuit costs outweigh the recall costs (including negative publicity and sales effect). But, just as in the pinto case, the recall would have been much cheaper early
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